{"id":1747,"date":"2023-10-13T10:18:09","date_gmt":"2023-10-13T10:18:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ata-divisions.org\/AVD\/?p=1747"},"modified":"2023-10-13T10:18:09","modified_gmt":"2023-10-13T10:18:09","slug":"self-description-vs-self-description","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ata-divisions.org\/AVD\/self-description-vs-self-description\/","title":{"rendered":"Self-description vs. Self-description"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>by Dr. Joel Snyder<\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">It\u2019s a complex issue. I work with professional audio description techniques based on four fundamentals that I developed many years ago\u2014one of them involves editing from what you see, selecting what you will describe based on the answer to a question that the describer poses to him or herself: What is most critical to an understanding (he points to his head) and an appreciation (his hand is on his heart) of the image?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">I think that this applies to self-description in a meeting as well. Yes, for a person who has low vision, having descriptions of physical characteristics can help them recall individuals and identify them on a second meeting. It provides information about the individual that non-blind people take in visually, and when done by everyone at a meeting or conference, gives the blind or visually impaired people present a sense of the diversity or lack of diversity of those speaking, on a panel or in the room generally.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">On the other hand, some blind or visually impaired people prefer not to have self-descriptions. I have had this discussion with a wide range of people who are blind\u2014some feel uncomfortable formulating a self-description\/that it is awkward or unfair to expect people to describe themselves, and that it takes time away from more meaningful information that can be exchanged. It can take up considerable time if twenty people each take a minute to describe themselves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Further, an individual providing a self-description is creating a subjective message, and to what end?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">With professional description, we try to discern the most critical images being conveyed\u2014developing a sense for what the focus is in a play, a film, in visual art and so on. But when a person self-describes, we choose based on what? A sighted person can access a wide range of information\u2014but what\u2019s most important to the meeting or the issue at hand?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Do we describe gender and age and skin color but not physical fitness, weight, or skin condition? In one way of thinking, by doing so we are elevating race, gender, and age, and ignoring what sighted folks often notice such as physical attractiveness, unusual or unconventional surroundings or clothing, blemishes, weight, or things that might be paramount to a sighted user and pointedly avoided in someone providing self-description.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">So self-description often cherry-picks what will be described and perhaps creates a false sense of inclusion. If we are told someone is fifty, is that a visual description if they happen to look thirty? What if they look eighty? Is the color of one\u2019s hair important or only if it is green or purple? Similarly, should it be required that a meeting participant disclose their religion if it is apparent from visual indicators like a cross necklace or a Star of David?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">What about race? And what language is most appropriate? Are we pressuring people to disclose their race if it is not visually apparent? If a person self-identifies as African-American, is that information actually part of what a sighted person has access to? It may be important to the individual but is it what\u2019s apparent to a sighted person? How can we know a person\u2019s race? Is a White South African who becomes a citizen of the U.S. an African-American? And it\u2019s perfectly acceptable to choose not to include an aspect of self-description\u2014but at the same time, if skin color is not referenced by all, does \u201cWhite\u201d end up being the default. Is that appropriate?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Professional audio describers describe \u2013 we don\u2019t explain.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Now\u2014having said all that, it may still be decided that all people in a meeting should provide a self-description. If so, here are a few suggestions, some of which have been developed\/recommended by audio describers in the U.K. (Vocal Eyes: <\/span><a class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\" draggable=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/vocaleyes.co.uk\/services\/resources\/digital-accessibility-and-inclusion\/self-description-for-inclusive-meetings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/vocaleyes.co.uk\/services\/resources\/digital-accessibility-and-inclusion\/self-description-for-inclusive-meetings\/<\/a><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">):<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">&#8211; Consider it in advance, if possible &#8212; have it written down already and stick to what you have written. People who self-describe off the cuff tend to take their lead (in terms of which aspects they describe) from the people before them. This can often result in successive people\u2019s descriptions getting longer and longer. Be concise and brief in your self-description\u2014a good rule of thumb is to restrict yourself to three key elements and one or two sentences.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">&#8211; The amount of detail you describe yourself with in part depends on how many people are in the meeting. A blind person will get information overload if 35 people all go into huge detail about their hair, skin, height, clothes, and Zoom background.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">&#8211; You might refer to your hair color, length, and style. Facial hair, such as a moustache or beard can be a useful visual marker for a blind or visually impaired person.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">&#8211; On a video call or online conference, your height is not generally visible, so how relevant is that? But then knowing that someone is very tall can be useful for a blind or visually impaired person at an in-person conference.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">&#8211; Clothes and accessories\u2014what you wear is a part of your identity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">gain, don\u2019t over-describe or even feel it necessary to refer to your clothes at all, but a patterned shirt or top, a brightly-colored scarf or striking jewelry can be a useful visual marker for a blind or visually impaired person. A particularly loud shirt may become a running joke at a meeting: make sure that the blind or visually impaired person is in on it from the beginning.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Finally, consider the use of humor\u2014please indulge me while I share my own self-description:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">\u201cI am a middle-aged White man with a receding hairline \u2013 oh, alright, it has receded to the rear of my head leaving a fringe of gray stretching around to my ears and my white and gray full beard \u2026 which covers a multitude of chins.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h5 class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-start para-style-title\"><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Dr. Joel Snyder<\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\"> is known internationally as one of the world\u2019s <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">first \u201caudio <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">describers,\u201d <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">a pioneer <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">in the field of <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Audio Description. <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Since 1981, <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">he has introduced <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">audio description <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">techniques in over <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">40 states and 64 countries and has made thousands of live events, media projects and museums accessible. In 2014, the American Council of the Blind published Dr. Snyder\u2019s book, <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">The Visual Made Verbal \u2013 A Comprehensive Training Manual and Guide to the History and Applications of Audio Description. <\/span><span class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Contact:<\/span><a class=\"OYPEnA text-decoration-underline text-strikethrough-none\" draggable=\"false\" href=\"mailto:jsnyder@audiodescribe.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> jsnyder@audiodescribe.com<\/a><\/h5>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Dr. Joel Snyder It\u2019s a complex issue. 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