Slavic Languages Division (American Translators Association)
For colleagues who are ATA members:
SLD members Shelley Fairweather-Vega and Jamila DelMistro would like to start a Special Interest Group (SIG) for Turkic Languages within ATA. They are looking for a 3rd person who is willing to serve as a moderator of the SIG for the first two years. If you are interested in helping out or learning more about this initiative, please contact Jamila (jamdmistro@gmail.com) or Shelley (translation@fairvega.com).
A review of On Interpreting for Russian-Speaking LGBTQ+ Individuals, presented by Olga Bogatova at ATA65
Review by Julia LaVilla-Nossova
Finding a session that was not related to AI in translation or interpreting at the ATA Conference was a nice change of pace. It was therefore refreshing to come across the session titled “Interpreting for Russian-Speaking LGBTQ+ Individuals” by Ms. Olga Bogatova among the offerings of the 65th ATA Conference in Portland, Oregon. What can be better than learning about something new and practical and, most importantly, related to the development of languages – the love of our lives!
In her lively and well-illustrated presentation, Ms. Bogatova examined various LGBTQ+ reference terms (such as queer, transgender, questioning, ally, pansexual, etc.) and their newness. In addition, she guided the audience in understanding the language barriers that LGBTQ+ asylum seekers encounter when they initiate asylum claims and the process that leads to obtaining legal status in the United States. Ms. Bogatova mentioned the well-founded fear LGBTQ+ persons have of being persecuted for belonging to a certain social group and how that impacts what words should be used to characterize their situations. She also described the asylum interview structure and provided information about general and special questions one needs to answer during an interview. Her presentation (which is available on the SLD website) included a table with a fascinating comparison between the LGBTQ+ situations in Ukraine and Russia. While this complex and sensitive topic is of great interest even of itself outside of making asylum applications, using appropriate terminology and forms of expression can be determinative in deciding the outcome of any particular case; therefore, especially in this context, Ms. Bogatova emphasized that one needs to be very careful in choosing precise English and Russian equivalents for the phrases used in connection with LGBTQ+ individuals.
This made me think about a different, albeit related, subject – translating Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, which the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor at the Department of State prepares and publishes every year. The annual Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, also known as the Human Rights Reports, cover internationally recognized individual, civil, political, and worker rights, as set forth in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other international agreements, including sections on LGBTQ+ rights. Acts of Congress mandate the annual submission of the Country Reports on Human Rights Practices to Congress. These important reports serve as guidance to help craft U.S. foreign policy that bolsters respect for human rights around the globe (additional information about the Human Rights reports, Trafficking in Persons Reports, and Religious Freedom Reports may be found on the official site of the Department of State). These reports are translated into several dozen foreign languages to make them available to people in various countries around the globe. They are presented to Congress on an annual basis for its committees to pass decisions regarding granting countries most favored nation status or, on the contrary, putting countries on sanctions lists due to poor human rights environments. Information about the most recent of these reports can be viewed here.
One of the most important emphases of Ms. Bogatova’s presentation is the idea that language is a dynamic entity. These changes are often driven by societal evolution – therefore, for translators to be relevant, they must always pay special attention to this societal evolution in order to establish correct equivalences for the languages they translate. And this makes the research conducted by Ms. Bogatova in the LGBTQ+ milieu and her sharing of it especially valuable.
Julia LaVilla-Nossova received her M.A. at Herzen University in St. Petersburg, Russia, and has been working as a freelance interpreter and translator in the United States for more than thirty years. She has been a staff translator at the Department of State Language Services since 2011.
A Review of: I Can’t Place the Accent: Identifying the Characteristics Traits of Computer Translation, presented by Eugenia Tietz-Sokolskaya, CT and John Riedl, CT on Friday, November 1 at ATA65
Review by Christine Pawlowski; slides from the presentation available in the Slavic Languages Presentation Archive
I do not feel threatened by AI, and this is not because I think my language skills are superior to the machine. Perhaps it is mostly that my monthly social security check allows me to lighten my workload to a manageable volume. And maybe it is also that I am technologically challenged (being provided with a modem to do my work for FBIS in the 90’s was a huge step).
In my very limited experience with AI projects, I have enjoyed “beating” the machine, as when the AI translation of the word “wygodny” in Polish, which may be translated variously as “convenient” or “comfortable,” resulted in an English version of an apartment advertisement that sported a comfortable bedroom armoire—perhaps a magician’s prop?
Well before the October/November ATA65 Conference, we received a survey from Eugenia and John in which we were asked to select the best translation of several Russian texts, but we were not told who (or what) did the translation. When we arrived at the session, we learned that the translations had been done by Deepl, an NMT (Neural Machine Translation) service launched in 2017; ChatGPT 3.5, an LLM (Large Language Model) service launched in 2022; and a few different humans.
Given its timeliness, it is not surprising that generative AI figured prominently in many of the conference sessions. John and Eugenia’s session dovetailed beautifully with the subject of Holly Mikkelson’s Wednesday training for ATA graders: Prescriptive and Descriptive Language. In a nutshell, we investigated how we really speak.
In both Holly’s presentation and that of our Slavists, we looked for the “tell”—a clue or indication that reveals information or suggests a hidden truth. All translators—human or generative AI–have these tells. To find them, we looked to cohesion, fluency, syntax and terminology.
From the survey results and our on-site bantering about some of the linguistic conundrums, we learned that:
The good news disseminated by Eugenia and John is that humans can achieve higher quality by:
This list suggests that skills in manipulating syntax are critical. The bad news is that humans also misspell words, misuse collocations and struggle with job fatigue.
Comparatively speaking, for the three passages we studied in the session, in every case ChatGPT came out on top of DeepL, which sticks very close to the original syntax, even to the point of unreadability. In two of the three examples, the human translation won.
Discussions of AI are ubiquitous—on Linkedin, in journals and magazines. An opinion piece in the latest edition of the journal First Things offers the suggestion that society can resist the techno-tyranny trend, which is making us miserable, by demanding human-to-human businesses because “People…will pay for happiness.” There is some nostalgia for the way things were before the modem and the ease of searching the web for the contextually right word—but not much, in my opinion.
Christine Pawlowski is a freelance Polish and Russian translator with an M.A. in Slavic Languages and Literatures from Indiana University, Bloomington. She is retired from teaching elementary-school music and delights in being Busia to her 17 grandchildren and in directing and accompanying her church choir. She is ATA-certified for Polish-into-English and an ATA Certification grader for that language pair. She may be contacted at pawlow@verizon.net.
Networking Gathering on Zoom: March 9th
Please join SLD the upcoming quarterly gathering on Zoom. Come chat with Slavic Languages Division colleagues about what’s going on in life and in business. The past meetups have offered members a valuable chance to catch up with each other. We hope that this one will give attendees a sense of connection and motivation going forward.
Grab something from the fridge and meet us on Zoom from 3-5 PM EDT on Sunday, March 9th. Latecomers are welcome. Attendance will be limited to 100 attendees, but this has not been a problem in the past.
To register, go to https://tinyurl.com/cdj9z3rt. With questions, please email SLD AssistantAdministrator Natalia Postrigan (postrigann09@gmail.com) before the event. We hope to see you there!
Proposal Deadline for ATA66 Extended to March 10th
Call for Speakers – Submit Your Proposal by March 3!
Speaking at the ATA Annual Conference is a challenging and rewarding opportunity. You will gain recognition as an industry leader by sharing your expertise.
Submit Your Proposal by March 3, 2025!
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ATA66 will be held at The Westin Seaport – Boston. ATA66 rates at the Westin are available until September 29, 2025, or as space allows.
Hotel Reservations are now available!
Visa Information
You may need a visa to travel to the U.S. We encourage you to make the necessary arrangements as soon as possible. Please see the ATA66 website for additional information.
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The SLD podcast, Slovo, has a new episode! Host Halla Goins chats with playwright, director, and literary translator Philip Boehm about how his various literary identities shape each other, capturing the original voice of a work in translation, and some of his most memorable Polish-to-English translation projects.
According to the National Endowment for the Arts, “Philip Boehm has translated more than thirty novels and plays by German and Polish writers, including Herta Müller, Christoph Hein, Bertolt Brecht, and Stefan Chwin. Nonfiction translations include A Woman in Berlin by Anonymous and Words to Outlive Us, a collection of eyewitness accounts from the Warsaw Ghetto. For these translations he has received numerous awards, including fellowships from the NEA and the John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation. He also works as a playwright and theater director, and is the founding Artistic Director of Upstream Theater in St. Louis.”
Listen now: https://soundcloud.com/atasld/episode-35-philip-boehm
You can also find this and past episodes on Google Play, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.
Long-time SLD member and Russian translator Galina Korovina passed away unexpectedly earlier this month. She left no family behind, and her friends have organized a GoFundMe, which can be found here, to help cover her funeral expenses. We can help by donating or sharing the link to spread the word.
If anyone has any memories of Galina, please feel free to share in the comments.
Steven McGrath, SLD Administrator
At long last, I am reaching out to you in the first administrator’s column on the SLD Blog. I acknowledge that it would have been ideal to update you on events in the division sooner, especially since this has been an eventful year for the ATA and SLD, but, as is fitting at the year’s end, I can now report to you a summary of challenges overcome and successes for our membership.
The first success I’d like to mention is the SLD website and blog where you are reading this column, which is now our division’s primary organ. After some technical difficulties earlier in the year, website administrator and blog editor Eugenia Tietz-Sokolskaya has started to right the ship. Starting in May, she oversaw the first member-submitted articles on the blog, a series on translation quality by Mikhail Yashchuk and a guide to generative AI by Viktoryia Baum. The blog is now publishing the post-conference staples of session reviews and newcomer first impressions, as well as administrative updates, announcements, and job opportunities. Kudos to Eugenia and to all SLD Blog contributors!
In speaking of the conference, it was a pleasure seeing many of you at ATA65 in Portland. Special thanks to Eugenia, John Riedl, Olga Bogatova and Shelley Fairweather-Vega for presenting under the Slavic Languages topic category. Thank you as well to SLD members who presented under other topics – I tried to attend them all when the schedule would allow.
Preparations for ATA66 in Boston are already well underway, so I encourage you all to consider presenting sessions. The call for proposals typically goes out in January, so start brainstorming now! SLD’s leadership council has already decided on a nominee to be the Susan Greiss Lecturer in Boston: British literary translator Robert Chandler, who has made an incredible mark on the profession over the course of his distinguished career – including his highly praised translations of the works of Vasily Grossman, to name only one of many authors. He has been on the SLD’s short list of speakers for several years now, and both Paul Gallagher and Nora Favorov, respectively our incoming and emerita Greiss Lecture sherpas, endorsed him in a competitive process.
The past year was quite productive for SLD volunteers. Halla Bearden has been steadily recording interviews for the Slovo podcast, notably with Viktoryia Baum concerning, among other things, her experience with NASA, and also with the Language Technology Division administrative team Daniel Sebesta and Bridget Hylak. An interview with Polish>English literary translator Phillip Boehm has been ready for some time and the link should go out to SLD members shortly. SLD’s social media moderators – Mikhail Yashchuk for the LinkedIn group, Anna Livermore for the Facebook group, and Julia Thornton for the Google listserv – helped spread the word on various opportunities and requests made known to the division.
Moving the administrator’s column to the SLD Blog seems a bit like the start of a new era, and in some ways this reflects changes in the ATA and in the profession as a whole. The sustaining force for any organization in times of change is the energy of its members. Next year, the columns will become regular again, we will have our own Greiss Lecturer at the conference, and there will be new initiatives in new formats. In 2024, a year of transition marked by staff turnover and technological changes at ATA headquarters, we were fortunate to have an enthusiastic body of volunteers who helped us connect with each other and stay abreast of the industry. Thank you all! I look forward to working with you again in 2025!
by Stephen Rifkind
Originally published on Stephen’s blog, Tip of the Tongue. Reposted with permission.
I had the pleasure of attending the American Translators Association conference in Portland, Oregon and have even recovered from the jet lag (more or less). As with all packed events, it takes some time to absorb all the impressions and information, especially when more than 1500 people attend and share their perspectives. Looking back, the conference was remarkable for the matters people discussed and no less for what they did not discuss, producing great food for thought on the future of the profession.
This large national conference featured, as always, a great variety of lectures, amazing networking opportunities and a national, if not global, view of the profession. The presentations, with a choice of 9 different topics in each time slot over 3 days, varied widely, with topics ranging from approaches to technological matters and specific markets to directed advice for experienced and new translators alike. The two most striking features were the quantity of presentations for interpreters, which indicates the vivacity of this field, and the emphasis on specific markets and issues for translators. I confess that while I gave two presentations (project-based quotes and how to make a presentation), I failed to attend a lecture not because I was not interested but because the conversations in the hallways were far more tempting, relevant and important. I had learned from my previous ATA conference 5 years ago (BC – before Corona) in Palm Springs that it is impossible to talk to each to each and every person at a conference with more than 1,000 people. Therefore, this time I strived to have longer and more impactful conversations with fewer people. This approach was less stressful and more effective in building contacts, the most important purpose of an industry conference. From these conversations, I gained a feel for the spectrum of the language specialist industry, the business trends, and the hopes and fears of translators and interpreters in all fields. This conference provided much information on the state of the industry.
Of no less importance were the topics and statements I did not hear. First, nobody expressed the thought that AI was the death of the industry. As in all technological innovations, some language specialists were more enthusiastic about ChatGPT than others. However, I did not hear any extreme forecast of the imminent disappearance of AI or it replacing human translators. In the same vein, I did not hear about people wishing to leave the industry due to the changes in the market and translation technology, only the search for how to adapt to and effectively adopt them. Finally, I did not hear complaints about low rates. To clarify, people mentioned irrelevant and/or ridiculous rates proposed by certain agencies. However, the translators stated them as facts that are a part but not the whole of the industry. In short, I heard no prognosis of the impending death of the human translation industry.
Between the said and unsaid, I understand, perhaps incorrectly, that the future of the translation industry depends on adapting to the everchanging landscape of technology and markets and providing support to new translators to help them navigate it. AI, just as machine and neural translation, is changing the manner in which translation providers and buyers operate. This process began decades ago with the major difference today being the pace of development. This rapid evolution creates a “future shock” syndrome even for younger professionals. Yet, each person has the freedom to leverage technology depending on their individual niche, willingness and skill. It is not an all or nothing matter but a much more subtle evolution. Concurrently, markets are changing. Some 20 years ago, local or national agencies dominated the industry, handling all types of texts. Today, multinational agencies rely on volume, causing freelancers to specialize and reach out directly to customers in order to achieve rates that allow them to earn a living. Moreover, customers no longer need to pay a human translator to handle a simple text for personal use as ChatGPT or even Google Translate handles them quite satisfactorily. As in many industries, translators must specialize, such as in the fields of medicine, law and marketing. Finally, while it was never easy, new translators find establishing a translation business quite complicated and confusing. The relevance of national translator organizations has thus only increased as they can and do provide vital information that allow newcomers to quickly find and establish themselves in this complex market. The road alone is more difficult than ever. The world of translation and interpreting is not disappearing but constantly evolving, requiring language providers to adapt accordingly.
One of the purposes of national conferences is to provide a wide-angle picture of the industry, similar to the image produced by the multiple eyes of a fly. ATA65 presented an industry in transition but healthy and vibrant, not to mention ambivalent about the changes that are occurring but facing them at the same time. Attending it was an intense but rewarding experience for me personally. I strongly recommend any translator or interpreter, whether experienced or new to the profession, to attend such events and join your national or regional organization. To paraphrase John Donne, no translator must or should be an island. Each is part of a larger and inspiring industry as I rediscovered this month. Translators, interpreters and conferences do matter.
Stephen Rifkind has been a translator for 20 years (Hebrew, Russian, and French into English) and an English lecturer for some 30 years. He specializes in legal and financial translation as well as official documents.
This year’s SLD Dinner was held on October 31, 2024, at Kachka, an Eastern European restaurant not far from the Oregon Convention Center. Over 30 people attended and enjoyed delicious food, unique decor, and excellent conversation. The photo above shows those remaining at the end of the evening – we were too busy enjoying ourselves to remember to document the event earlier!
Over the next few weeks, we’ll be sharing reviews of sessions and the conference as a whole. If you attended and would like to share your impressions or a session review (even if unrelated to Slavic languages), shoot me an email at eugenia@sokolskayatranslations.com. Stay tuned!